GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

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GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by mamba » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:25 pm

Of all the problems I could imagine to step in to, this is the last one I could.

I'm setting up a system with a Ga5-ax f4 and a promise tx2 SATA card for a 74Gbyte Raptor HLFS.
I was waiting for a 9800se AIW and meanwhile I installed winXP with a Rage PCI card.
No problem at all.
I installed a USB 2.0 card and a X-fi, with no glitches.
The 9800se arrived so I put it on and now the Promise controller won't work anymore.
I changed the pci slot, pull of other pci cards, no luck.
With the AGP populated with the 9800se there is no promise controller, with the Rage PCI, all is normal.
Why???

Maybe I should try another agp card just in case, maybe the agp slot is faulty?

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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by Jim » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:53 pm

You could try a search here for posts on this subject, But I am not sure that the 9800 AIW card will work in some circumstances. I have used a 9000 AIW successfully, and 8500 s are supposed to work but I am not sure about the 9800.

Well I did a search, and came up with several posts of possible interest including this one :

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1579&hilit=9700
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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by mamba » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:44 am

Thank you Jim.
I read the discussion and it appears that Radeon cards above 8500 won't happily install on a super7 system.
Still, I don't understand that behaviour of my card or of the whole rig.

I'll find another agp card, but if there are other suggestions on bios settings, Please let me know.

Meanwhile I discovered this:
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33664271

and this!!

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/583 ... track-s150

Man... Maybe I need a fix for the controller?

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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by mamba » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:51 am

I downloaded the TX2 PLUS newest BIOS.
It's not the same model I own, mine lacks the ATA port, but I trayed it anyway and luckily it works.

The bios now correctly load and I able to enter XP.

The 9800SE AIW is detected by XP and installed automatically but for some reason the resolution is stuck, I'll install the latest legacy drivers.

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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by mamba » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:59 am

As I expected, the latest legacy drivers (and Omega ones), won't install properly.
The system reboot after installation endlessly without opening xp.

I think I have to find some older version of driver.

Any suggestions?

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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by mamba » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:10 pm

Little update:

Catalyst 6.6 and 6.1 worked.

Now I'm with 6.6, NGO optimized, but I'm not sure about optimal performance.

Is there a way to enable interleaving with ga5ax?

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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by Jim » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:06 pm

You could probably use WPCredit to enable interleaving, if you have the right PCR files. Apart from that there is "Tweak Bios" and you could also check to see if your bios settings have an interleaving setting.

The problem Re the 9800 AIW if I understand it correctly, is that Super 7 boards only support 1x and 2x AGP, whereas the 9800 AIW wants 4x AGP unless I am mistaken. Anyway, I am given to understand that the best ATI card you can run on a Super 7 is the 9700. The 9600, and 9800 don't work because of the 4x AGP requirement.
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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by mamba » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:57 am

Hi Jim,

I can confirm that my AIW 9800SE is working on my GA5-AX board, I installed the 1.6.6 NGO optimized drivers (6.6 based) and modded it to 9800pro (8 pipelines enabled).
It can work with AGP 2X.
Normal desktop and 3dmark2001SE tested.
Now I need the modded bios or WPcredit with a PCR file for my motherboard, but I can't see where I can download it, the DL section has gone.

Any help?

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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by Jim » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:44 am

I can email you a copy of WPCredit, but I don't have PCR files for that Motherboard, unless the PCR files for tha ASUS P5A would work -- I think they use the same chipset, but I am no expert on these things.
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2x 80G Maxtor (7200) Ducted w/ 2x486 Fans Mount
52/24/52/16 LG CDR/RW/DVD
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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by mamba » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:50 am

I think that DonPedro has one.

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Re: GA5-AX + Promise TX2 + 9800 pro AIW problem...

Post by Jim » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:53 pm

Well if you want me to send you a copy of WPCredit, and WPCrSet, I need an email address to send them too.
Superpuppy 3
K6-3+ 450 ACZ (6x100)
DFI K6BV3+/66 Rev B2 (2 Meg) w/ 2x28mm Chipset Fans
2x256 Meg PC 133 Hynix SDRAM
1x 20G Maxtor (7200)
2x 80G Maxtor (7200) Ducted w/ 2x486 Fans Mount
52/24/52/16 LG CDR/RW/DVD
8/4/3/12/24/16/32 LG Super Multi
ATI 9000 aiw Radeon AGP
SB Audigy 1 MP3 Sound
CMD 649 IDE Controller
NEC USB 2 Card

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