Software tweaks

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Post by theEMP » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:10 am

KachiWachi wrote:Keeping things cool isn't a cure-all.

Timing requirements must still be met. If they aren't, then you can't go that fast.

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What are you meaning by timings KW? Ram timings or keeping the bus speeds in within range?

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Post by KachiWachi » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:32 am

I mean the physical timings within the RAM chip itself that allow it to be written to, and read from successfully...without error.

Ever download a RAM chip datasheet and look at the timing diagrams?
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Post by theEMP » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:22 pm

to be completely honest KW, no I have not.

Shoot me a link to something like what you are talking about, it would be interesting to take a look at one.

What would I hope to gain from one?

when overclocking memtest+ (or goldmemory) is considered good enough to test ram by detecting errors.

Does that not suffice to you KW?

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Post by KachiWachi » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:56 am

The datasheet will tell you what the RAM chip requires to operate properly and without error.

The bottom line is the time required for certain events to occur. The number of clocks required must still reference this value.

To verify your settings, the programs you mention will work just fine.


Ref: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/ram/timing.htm
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Post by theEMP » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:04 pm

ok well back to software tweaks since that's where we are...

Is there something that is the equivalent of clockgen for K6 stuff? I guess softfsb is the closest thing?

What works the best for temp monitoring? Motherboard monitor? Speedfan?

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Post by Jim » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:23 pm

Not familiar w/ clockgen. Assuming it allows you to reset the FSB through software, CPU Cool does that, and a lot more. K6Speed allows you to reset the multiplier and enable write allocation. Both can be setup to enable predetermined settings at boot.
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Post by theEMP » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:33 am

thanks for that tip Jim, cpu cool looks pretty slick. It even managed to control fsb on my Nforce3. :D I have to figure out which temps are what. Is it worth paying for the upgrade on cpu cool?

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Post by Jim » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:49 am

YES!!! - Otherwise you have to manually reenable your settings at boot every time. Only the lisenced version allows you to preconfigure. It is cheap; and you are legally allowed to use it on as many machines as you have.
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Post by Jim » Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:58 pm

@ The EMP : Further to what I said already about CPU Cool being worth the 15 Euros and change, it also gives you quite detailed info about your RAM. The unregistered version does that too; but not as fully as the registered version does. If you understand what it tells you, (and I must confess that I don't completely), you can figure out exactly what tweaks your RAM will support.

Also, you mentioned that : "I have to figure out which temps are what." If you do, please let me know, because I am getting a reading on "Temp sens 0" ranging from 43.5C up to 45C; and I would like to know what the heck it is!
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Post by theEMP » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:38 am

I guess I'll take a peek at motherboard monitor and speedfan to see if they can help me play the matching game, otherwise it's move a fan around and see what cools off time :lol:

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