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Software tweaks

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:19 am
by theEMP
1st off what is a pcr file? I see that it's used with wcredit but I don't really understand what it does.... :?

Does software like MBM5 and speedfan work on K6 boards? Just certain ones?

Does clockgen work?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:22 am
by KachiWachi
A PCR file is nothing but a text file that WPCredit recognizes...to make it easier for you to operate the program and to make changes to your PC.

It is basically a lookup table...matching the chipset registers to their function.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:14 pm
by theEMP
so what does wpcredit do in layman's terms?

I saw this:
http://www.overclockers.com/tips280/
Offset 69 lets you set memory speed. If you want to run your memory at 133Mhz while your FSB is at 100, this is where you do it, along with some other documented tweaks. Again, both my BIOS and the KX133s show the optimal settings
so does it basically let you run dividers?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:17 pm
by KachiWachi
WPCredit allows you to view...and change...*all* of the motherboard chipset registers...that's it.

Most of the functions should be available in the BIOS though...at least the ones the motherboard designer wants you to have access too.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:53 pm
by theEMP
can you dumb it down more KW? :?

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:24 am
by Stedman5040
@theEMP

Try 'WPcredit operating instructions' and 'Software tweaking the DFI K6BV3+/66 with wpcredit'

Both threads can be found in Software and tweaking section.

Stedman

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:55 am
by KachiWachi
Actually it can't get any "dumber" than that.

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:13 pm
by theEMP
KachiWachi wrote:Actually it can't get any "dumber" than that.
yeah it could...but I'll just do some googling and see if I can't peice together what it does on my own. Stedman's threads helped some....but there seems to be more to it.

my version of dumbed down would be something like this:

clockgen: lets you adjust fsb on the fly
AMD64 tweaker: inside windows ram timing adjustments
softfsb: lets you raise the fsb from within windows

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:12 pm
by Jim
If you find more to it, please share it. I have been experimenting w/ WPCredit off and on for a while now. Frustrating that very few other people tell what they know. I am certainly no computer expert; but already I have found 1 WPCredit setting, which will invariably crash your maching, unless you first change another setting. THAT has implications. What about all those other settings that crash your machine? Is there something else that has to be enabled first before they will work? I don't even know what half the things it adjusts do. I just try them, and bench them, - better? - or worse? I have also found one setting which seems to enable others. i.e. You get no gain from the others till you enable that one; but then you get a bunch.

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:36 pm
by tazwegion
I've used Central Tweaking Unit (CTU) successfully before on Intel chipsets with CeleronA's, I dunno' what else it would work on but it was reasonably straight forward to use ;)

It can be found in our downloads section, or simply click HERE to download :D

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:23 am
by KachiWachi
I'm sorry...but I can't make it any simpler.

WPCredit is only the tool that allows you to make changes to your machine.

Knowing what changes can be made successfully is a whole different question.

As I said...the mainboard designer gives you choices in the BIOS to make changes to things that are "safe". Everything else is hidden because usually, the mainboard designer has already set those configurations to the best that his design can support.

Now if you have no BIOS settings available (everything hidden)...and they obviously can be improved upon (for example - memory timings)...then this is what WPCredit can be used (successfully) for.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:05 am
by theEMP
Now if you have no BIOS settings available (everything hidden)...and they obviously can be improved upon (for example - memory timings)...then this is what WPCredit can be used (successfully) for.
that's really the answer. :D

it seems to be a way to mod a bios in an uncompressed form, is the best way I can wrap my mind around it. So given that it should be used with extreme caution. It looks, from searching the net, to be primarily used to change ram functions.

Such as: http://www.overclockers.com/tips105/

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:36 am
by KachiWachi
WPCredit does not modify the BIOS in any way.

It allows you to change things that the BIOS sets up though after the machine is booted.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:30 am
by theEMP
sure seems like bios modder's lite... :lol:

This really is a hard program to define what all it does.... I guess it seems simple to folks that have used it.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:45 am
by KachiWachi
The program is very easy to use.

What is difficult is understanding the items that you are changing...and why they are set the way they are to begin with.