"+" model not recognized in BIOS at startup

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darbykidd
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"+" model not recognized in BIOS at startup

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I have an AMD k6-III+450 on an Epox mvp3g5 motherboard. The date of the BIOS i have is 8/06/01. As far as I know the latest bios for this motherboard. At startup it just recognizes my chip as a regular k6-3/450. No "+". I am positive I have the plus model chip and windows and every other program i have recognizes the plus. Any ideas on why the bios isn't recognizing the "plus", and am I missing out on performance since it doesn't? thanks for the help. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "+" model not recognized in BIOS at startup

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I've noticed that a number of boards tend to do this.<br><br>I don't think it should be a big deal, as the capabilities of the K6-III and k6-III+ are identical. The only difference between them is the .18 vs .25 micron process.<br><br>Well, except for the PowerNow (was that what it was called) ability of the + procs. But the BIOS not recognizing it shouldn't make any difference.<br> <p>--------------------<br>FIC PA-2013 2.0 E-O036, K6-2+ 450 @ 500 1.9V<br><br>FIC PA-2013 2.0 E-O036, K6-III 450AFX @ 500 2.2V<br><br>Acer Quasi-proprietary Mid-Tower with P-II 266</p><i></i>
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Re: + not recognized

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What KingV said...No worries, it treats it as a K6-III so everything is enabled and works fine. I have the same motherboard. <p></p><i></i>
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bios and + cpus

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My Asus P5A-B mobo did not correctly enable Write Allocation for my k6-2+ when I first got it setup last fall; then I found that Asus release a new BIOS for it in Aug/Sept 02 that, among win2k/acpi/etc stuff also correctly ID'd the + cpu's and enabled WA. My point is, very w/ k6speed or similar than WA is enabled, etc.<br> On a similar note, I ran my Asus TX97-XE board w/ that cpu and it also did not enable WA; I dl'd a modded bios from <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebri ... <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>and it fixed that, showed the correct clock speed, and fixed a 32GB HD limitation. Look at the "...BIOS Support" section.<br> Doesn't look like the Epox bios is modded, but there's some good info anyway. It does show this info for a +-recognizable bios, dated 12/21/00...<br><br>Epox <br>EP-MVP3C<br>EP-MVP3C2<br>EP-MVP3G-M (2Mb)<br>EP-MVP3G2<br>EP-MVP3G5 <br>12/21/2000 VP3C0C21.EXE <br>The EP-MVP3G-M with 1 Mbit flash chip has to be upgraded to a 2Mbit chip to be able to use this BIOS. Check the Epox web-site for more details. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "+" model not recognized in BIOS at startup

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Hello,
The non + lacks the on die L256 cache as well which is a huge difference in preformance. What the bios reads doesn't necassarily mean anything. Check it with any cupid and you'll know if your getting all the functions, caches and clock speed. Here is a good one specially for II+/III+ that has a small benchmark and a soft multiplier plus it enables write ordering. Regards,

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=338

His Royal Majesty King V wrote:I don't think it should be a big deal, as the capabilities of the K6-III and k6-III+ are identical. The only difference between them is the .18 vs .25 micron process.<br><br>Well, except for the PowerNow (was that what it was called) ability of the + procs. But the BIOS not recognizing it shouldn't make any difference.<br> <p>--------------------<br>FIC PA-2013 2.0 E-O036, K6-2+ 450 @ 500 1.9V<br><br>FIC PA-2013 2.0 E-O036, K6-III 450AFX @ 500 2.2V<br><br>Acer Quasi-proprietary Mid-Tower with P-II 266</p><i></i>
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Re: "+" model not recognized in BIOS at startup

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dusty1 wrote:Hello,
The non + lacks the on die L256 cache as well which is a huge difference in preformance. What the bios reads doesn't necassarily mean anything. Check it with any cupid and you'll know if your getting all the functions, caches and clock speed. Here is a good one specially for II+/III+ that has a small benchmark and a soft multiplier plus it enables write ordering. Regards,

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=338

Nope, the regular K6-III also has on die L2 256K cache. It's the K6-2 that lacks the on die L2.
E-Machines T6000 (AMD64 3200+) (Don't laugh! It absolutely rocks!)
GigaByte K7N400 Pro2, 3200+, 1 GB DDR, 80 GB WD SE
Epox MVPG5, K6-III+@550, 384 SDRAM, 80 GB WD SE
TX97-XE, K6-III+@400, 256 SDRAM, 40 GB WD HD
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