Geforce 6200 pci anyone? anyone?

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In the past I have measured Video Card performance using VSpeed, DXSpeed, and CTCM (/VID switch).

You can really see how the use of Write Combining can affect the video performance...using these DOS based programs.
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Hey guys been busy "nursing" a sick cat back to health. Anyway, if you all can wait a few months Im guessing there's going to be a lot more pci/dx9 cards out on the market due to Vista's arrival. ATI in fact has such a card out which will replace the ever-aging dx8.1 pci tier and I've read that it's faster than anything Nvidia or ati currently offer but it's only been spotted in Asian markets. :( Besides the only thing I do play on my K6 that really could use a faster video card is Titan Quest but even with my dx-8.1 card it still runs decently so I can wait a bit longer.
1)K6-III+450Mhz acz @600(120 x 5.0),Tekram P5M4-M+ 392mb Kingstn sdram(2-2-2-5),Radeon 9200 256mb PCI@(325/470),Maxtor 40GB (8mb cache),Artec wrr-52X CDRW,Liteon 16x DVD-rom 2)Sempron 3000+(sktA)@2225ghz(185x12),1gb PC2700 Ultra DDR(2.5 cas),Geforce 6200 AGP 128mb(520/800),200gb Maxtor (8mb cache) Sony DVD RW DRU-710A 3)AMD 64 (skt 939) 4000+ @3.1ghz(12x255),Biostar TForce 6100 mobo,2GB Kingstn HyperX DDR (2-3-2-5-1),Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm (8mb cache),BFG 7600GT (650/1700),Plxtr DVDRW PX-716SA
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Well this is news 8) A new PCI card from ATI ....I like that , maybe better than a Radeon 9700 Pro ?

Hope they make that one also a A.I.W. model option.
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You know lonewolf, I was going to bite the bullet and get the BFG 6200 for my cousin. Now you've got me doubting myself, and made my cousin anxious about his Dell 2400 rig. I could tell him to purchase a nice 300GB hard drive first, (he has 40 gb now) and some more ram. Of course he'll have to wait even further to play games. May I ask, where did you get this information? ATi put out a newsletter? Is nVidia going to follow?

Will it be dumbed down R580 core? A new R600 core maybe, with Vista capability? Know how many pipelines and vertex shaders specifically?

Ideally the P4 2.0 in the Dell could handle 8 to 12 pixel pipelines, with 3 tmu's, and 8-16 shader configurations. Obviously this is being optimistic, but if the chip is made on the .09 u/micron press; it really would not need a huge power supply and will run rather cool. Of course the overclock potential has to be there, also 128-bit memory interface would be a welcome, as well as some fast ram (350-450 [700-900DDR]), with the core being at least 300mHz.

I wont get my hopes up though, but if by chance these cards exceed my expectations, I will proverbially eat my socks. :oops:

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:shock: FVX ME!!! X-bits is one of my favorite sites, its Russian :wink: How could I have missed this....

/goes to find sock from prior evening running regiment :cry:
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1)K6-III+450Mhz acz @600(120 x 5.0),Tekram P5M4-M+ 392mb Kingstn sdram(2-2-2-5),Radeon 9200 256mb PCI@(325/470),Maxtor 40GB (8mb cache),Artec wrr-52X CDRW,Liteon 16x DVD-rom 2)Sempron 3000+(sktA)@2225ghz(185x12),1gb PC2700 Ultra DDR(2.5 cas),Geforce 6200 AGP 128mb(520/800),200gb Maxtor (8mb cache) Sony DVD RW DRU-710A 3)AMD 64 (skt 939) 4000+ @3.1ghz(12x255),Biostar TForce 6100 mobo,2GB Kingstn HyperX DDR (2-3-2-5-1),Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm (8mb cache),BFG 7600GT (650/1700),Plxtr DVDRW PX-716SA
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Seems that this NEW PCI ATI Radeon X1300 video card is Alive! ....also only drivers for Win XP/ 2000 though.

A like it already ..... time for a rating test vs several PCI top guns and a few AGP cards. 8)

Now that there is feisable understanding of the intended purpose of this video card I can already see a upgraded model coming through , maybe even a dual card configuration. :P
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http://www.visiontek.com/products/cards ... 56pci.html http://www.visiontek.com/products/cards ... ffpci.html Think this one just hatched a day or two ago....

Just picked it up for $105 and change on amazon thx to a couple of gift certificates. Should have it hopefully by Monday. Can't wait to smack some of you AGPers in the benches. :)
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1)K6-III+450Mhz acz @600(120 x 5.0),Tekram P5M4-M+ 392mb Kingstn sdram(2-2-2-5),Radeon 9200 256mb PCI@(325/470),Maxtor 40GB (8mb cache),Artec wrr-52X CDRW,Liteon 16x DVD-rom 2)Sempron 3000+(sktA)@2225ghz(185x12),1gb PC2700 Ultra DDR(2.5 cas),Geforce 6200 AGP 128mb(520/800),200gb Maxtor (8mb cache) Sony DVD RW DRU-710A 3)AMD 64 (skt 939) 4000+ @3.1ghz(12x255),Biostar TForce 6100 mobo,2GB Kingstn HyperX DDR (2-3-2-5-1),Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm (8mb cache),BFG 7600GT (650/1700),Plxtr DVDRW PX-716SA
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Anyone interested in my 9200? Don't everyone jump at once LOL Anyway, I'm embarassed to say what i paid for it but the person who buys it is guaranteed a good laugh, via the receipt :) It has a lifetime warranty and is less than a year old.
1)K6-III+450Mhz acz @600(120 x 5.0),Tekram P5M4-M+ 392mb Kingstn sdram(2-2-2-5),Radeon 9200 256mb PCI@(325/470),Maxtor 40GB (8mb cache),Artec wrr-52X CDRW,Liteon 16x DVD-rom 2)Sempron 3000+(sktA)@2225ghz(185x12),1gb PC2700 Ultra DDR(2.5 cas),Geforce 6200 AGP 128mb(520/800),200gb Maxtor (8mb cache) Sony DVD RW DRU-710A 3)AMD 64 (skt 939) 4000+ @3.1ghz(12x255),Biostar TForce 6100 mobo,2GB Kingstn HyperX DDR (2-3-2-5-1),Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm (8mb cache),BFG 7600GT (650/1700),Plxtr DVDRW PX-716SA
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Just ordered an ati radeon 9100 pci with 64mb ddr ram, 128 bit memory bus-width, manufactured by visiontek. I tried to find the 128mb ram version but it seems to be not available anymore.

the charge was $49 which is reasonable since it is brand new .... since the $/€ exchange rate is quite favorably right now I will save about $10 :)

oh yes, here is the link to the shop where I found the card. they currently clear their stock.

for the voodoo enthusiasts: they are offering the voodoo 3500 w/ tv-tuner for 38.88.
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l0new0lf wrote:www.visiontek.com/products/cards/retail ... 56pci.html http://www.visiontek.com/products/cards ... ffpci.html Think this one just hatched a day or two ago....

Just picked it up for $105 and change on amazon thx to a couple of gift certificates. Should have it hopefully by Monday. Can't wait to smack some of you AGPers in the benches. :)
Bookmarked .... hope you get the card soon to smack peoples , but I assume you will be using Win XP as a O.S. ?

Test it against the 9200 ... :P
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Well I got good newz and bad. I got the card but I can't get the ****** to work. Just booting up with a blank screen. I even hooked up a 350 watt psu thinking maybe it was a power issue but it did the same thing, nada. The card says it requires a 3.3 volt pci slot. Don't most of the super socket seven boards have that? When was 5 volt phased out? :(
1)K6-III+450Mhz acz @600(120 x 5.0),Tekram P5M4-M+ 392mb Kingstn sdram(2-2-2-5),Radeon 9200 256mb PCI@(325/470),Maxtor 40GB (8mb cache),Artec wrr-52X CDRW,Liteon 16x DVD-rom 2)Sempron 3000+(sktA)@2225ghz(185x12),1gb PC2700 Ultra DDR(2.5 cas),Geforce 6200 AGP 128mb(520/800),200gb Maxtor (8mb cache) Sony DVD RW DRU-710A 3)AMD 64 (skt 939) 4000+ @3.1ghz(12x255),Biostar TForce 6100 mobo,2GB Kingstn HyperX DDR (2-3-2-5-1),Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm (8mb cache),BFG 7600GT (650/1700),Plxtr DVDRW PX-716SA
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if I am correctly informed, 3.3v came with pci version 2.2

according to information on the gigabyte website, the ga-5ax rev 5.2 featues pci 2.2

I know that my asus p5a 1.03 does not accept a netgear netcard which requires pci 2.2, but I never tried that with the ga-5ax.
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thx for the reply don. Guess maybe ive got the old version of the pci *shrug* I spoke with tech support and I knew more about the card then they did and that wasnt much or maybe i just got someone who didnt give a flying @#$%! . In any case, guess that's what you get nowadays with free tech support. Im at a loss here because i was just informed by the company i got it from that they dont accept returns in instances like this. #$%#!
1)K6-III+450Mhz acz @600(120 x 5.0),Tekram P5M4-M+ 392mb Kingstn sdram(2-2-2-5),Radeon 9200 256mb PCI@(325/470),Maxtor 40GB (8mb cache),Artec wrr-52X CDRW,Liteon 16x DVD-rom 2)Sempron 3000+(sktA)@2225ghz(185x12),1gb PC2700 Ultra DDR(2.5 cas),Geforce 6200 AGP 128mb(520/800),200gb Maxtor (8mb cache) Sony DVD RW DRU-710A 3)AMD 64 (skt 939) 4000+ @3.1ghz(12x255),Biostar TForce 6100 mobo,2GB Kingstn HyperX DDR (2-3-2-5-1),Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm (8mb cache),BFG 7600GT (650/1700),Plxtr DVDRW PX-716SA
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Post by DonPedro »

l0new0lf,

since you are our pioneer here for using a modern pci-card (and you already shelled the extra money) why not give it a try with a ga-5a 5.2? I checked ebay and found several offers, the cheapest right now can be found here.

I recommend to cross-check first that pci 2.2 means support for 3.3v!!! I will try by myself to get more info on that and will report back if I can dig out something usefull.
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pioneer??!! lol I think gullible sucker is the appropiate title in this scenario but thx for the vote of confidence lol Anyhow, ill check ebay later but in the meantime im not giving up on this board yet. Ill keep u posted.
1)K6-III+450Mhz acz @600(120 x 5.0),Tekram P5M4-M+ 392mb Kingstn sdram(2-2-2-5),Radeon 9200 256mb PCI@(325/470),Maxtor 40GB (8mb cache),Artec wrr-52X CDRW,Liteon 16x DVD-rom 2)Sempron 3000+(sktA)@2225ghz(185x12),1gb PC2700 Ultra DDR(2.5 cas),Geforce 6200 AGP 128mb(520/800),200gb Maxtor (8mb cache) Sony DVD RW DRU-710A 3)AMD 64 (skt 939) 4000+ @3.1ghz(12x255),Biostar TForce 6100 mobo,2GB Kingstn HyperX DDR (2-3-2-5-1),Maxtor 200gb 7200rpm (8mb cache),BFG 7600GT (650/1700),Plxtr DVDRW PX-716SA
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